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ELI Factor - Oscar, Robert & Matthew Threesome!
« on: August 31, 2012, 10:41:27 AM »
Teaser photo! Oscar, Robert, and Matthew "together" on video for the first time on ELI Factor!

Coming soon!

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Re: ELI Factor - Oscar, Robert & Matthew Threesome!
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2012, 11:27:22 AM »
Now I see where a bit more than two thirds of all the ELI testosterone comes from. :)

Can't wait for this episode!


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Re: ELI Factor - Oscar, Robert & Matthew Threesome!
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2012, 06:30:05 AM »



Just sayin'
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Our fearless leader is lacking in his duties, bad enough I have my own list of items, now I have a Matthew list of reminders..
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Re: ELI Factor - Oscar, Robert & Matthew Threesome!
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2012, 01:06:37 PM »
Ok, I got the "reminder" hint. Sheesh. Some people.... I tell you....
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Re: ELI Factor - Oscar, Robert & Matthew Threesome!
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2012, 11:00:39 PM »
Episode 6 is finally posted!  The first ELI threesome!

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Re: ELI Factor - Oscar, Robert & Matthew Threesome!
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2012, 11:08:24 AM »
Great episode guys!  My only recommendation is that you might consider changing the title.  "ELI Factor - Oscar, Robert & Matthew Threesome!" might leave some voyeurs who find this episode through a search engine a wee bit disappointed.

Let me suggest "Episode 6 - Pornography trolling; Trolling for Sales Taxes".

Oscar, some excellent points made here.

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Re: ELI Factor - Oscar, Robert & Matthew Threesome!
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2012, 01:04:49 PM »
Good episode, guys. Thanks!

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Re: ELI Factor - Oscar, Robert & Matthew Threesome!
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2012, 03:42:58 PM »
Nice work. It covered a fair amount of ground on the image trolling. I like how it left the door open for further discussion about the P2P trolling, aka "porn trolling" because it involves pornography a lot of the time.

Those lawsuits are starting to get more media attention. I like the argument that pornography has no artistic or social value, and is therefore not entitled to copyright protection. That could spark some debate at the highest levels because "pornography" is still such a vaguely defined term. I could think of other types of content that one could argue have no artistic or social value, such as "torture porn" — the "Saw" and "Hostel" series, for instance. Are those types of movies ineligible for copyright protection? Who decides?

In any case, I think it's appropriate to refer to ELI's "threesome" as a subliminal teaser for the upcoming episode on Porn Trolls.
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Re: ELI Factor - Oscar, Robert & Matthew Threesome!
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2012, 09:40:55 PM »
Another ELI Defense Team "Threesome" episode is coming.  Episode 7 will be posted soon.
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Re: ELI Factor - Oscar, Robert & Matthew Threesome!
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2012, 10:35:07 PM »
Episode 7 of ELI Factor has been posted. Enjoy.

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Re: ELI Factor - Oscar, Robert & Matthew Threesome!
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2012, 10:02:04 AM »
Well done guys!  Another great episode.

I have a thought for you on taking this to the next level.  Really, I am just spit-ballin and I might get some ideas that I can use in my work.  Either way, I am interested in where this might go.

SG, Robert, and the ELI community are so good at Search Engine Optimization and using the internet and search against the trolls, that I am thinking these videos need to get out there a little more.  There is some solid information presented by credible people who clearly know the topics they are talking about.  This could help more people find ELI and promote our message.  It could do wonders for the credibility of ELI and Oscar's legal practice. 

And I know I have said this before, but I want to take it a little further this time.  Why would anyone outside of the ELI community click on a 24 minute video entitled "Episode 7" or "Oscar, Matthew, and Robert threesome"?

My company is going through this very thought process now.  We have a lot of documentation and help desk troubleshooting documents indexed and available for the convenience of our customers.  We are thinking about turning some of the more prevalent help desk questions and even some training class curricula into videos.  But how do you get the search engines to find the video?  When you have hundreds or even thousands of videos published, it is important to put the right ones on the first page of a search.

Right now, our decision rests somewhere between these two extremes.  In the simplest case, we need a very descriptive title of the contents of the video.  This works better than "Episode 7", but not all that well for Search Engines.  In the extreme case, each video sits on a separate page with a complete transcript of what is said, as well as organizational captions to capture synonyms that people might be using to search.  This should get the videos found in appropriate searches.

If we go to the extreme, some people might skip the video and just read the transcript.  So then was it worth the effort to put the video together?  In some cases the video is helpful where there is some kind of computer interaction or interactive charts, etc.

I guess what I am saying is that you go through the time and effort to put these videos together, but they are only reaching a small fraction of the audience they might apply to.  A little wrapping might make them far more useful to the ELI target audience.  What do you guys think?  Does anyone have any good ideas for a compromise between the extremes of a good title and a complete transcript?  Is there technology out there that can help in wrapping the ELI videos for search engines?  Or is it too early in the life cycle to think about this?

I look forward to everyone's thoughts.
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Re: ELI Factor - Oscar, Robert & Matthew Threesome!
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2012, 10:41:46 AM »
Stinger, you make some excellent points. Because of my years and a general belief that the "old ways are best" and most likely other factors it would take Freud and Jung to unearth, I personally prefer reading transcripts to watching videos.

With that said, I've watched almost all the videos here on ELI, but that's because I have a major interest in the topics and also because of the community vibes coming off Matt, Robert, and Oscar... and the guests, of course.

I'm convinced effectively using video is a necessity in today's digital world, though I mourn the passing of transcripts, which I personally prefer because I can read a LOT faster than I can watch and I can also comprehend significantly more with the written word than I can while listening.

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Re: ELI Factor - Oscar, Robert & Matthew Threesome!
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2012, 10:58:06 AM »
I'll jump in real quick, but let Matthew reply to this if he has the time.. The videos we are doing will eventually be more search engine friendly, we've discussed this at lenght, we also plan on syndicating the video, thru various outlets to expand out reach..
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