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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Get it Straight or Get Lost
« on: October 20, 2008, 05:55:21 PM »
David,
I don't have a problem with questions but how they are asked makes a difference. But let us go back to your original post.
> how do you claim to help these people with letter?
> you send form letter for $150 and then claim if getty pursues legally you will represent for $150 p/h
> If getty filed 100 of these at once how would you defend?
> it sounds like you are taking advantage of people .
You asked how we claimed to help people? You trivialize the $150 service without getting all the facts? You say it sounds like we are taking advantage of people?
For the relatively short amount of time I have been involved, I think I have assembled the most comprehensive research on the Internet and the Getty controversy and given it away freely. I don't ask for anything and even the so-called "recognition" I get really is not entirely positive to my career. And yet, I am insane enough to do it anyway.
Even your current reply has a tone of entitlement that you "deserve" an answer. You don't. I do my best to put as much information as possible. I do my best to work with Oscar in a cooperative manner of which he has been incredibly generous.
And yes, I get very impatient and irate when people want to assume the worst of us. If you wanted to ask a question, you could have asked without all the negative insinuations of how we can help people and how it seems like we are taking advantage of people.
Regarding FSB, same reason. I tried to be open, helpful, and contributing. Then some people started making cynical and conspiratorial comments about me and Oscar. Then I try to unwind and clarify the thing, then other people are whining about wasting bandwidth.
So now, I have gone silent unless there is something serious to say. I am thinking to myself that I am idiot for even keeping this site or discussion forum up at all and let Getty go after the legally ignorant or the spineless.
I took a stand and used my brain and spine. I don't care if people want the freebies or hire Oscar. What I definitely won't put up with is the conspiracy and cynical talk. I also do not have to continue to explain and justify myself for trying to do some good. That is simply ridiculous that I have to defend my efforts to provide resources to help others.
Matthew
djsek Wrote:
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> do you think your sarcasm helps?
> i asked legitamate questions..its called covering
> all bases
> for all your claims that the information is on
> site to be read no were does it say his costs rise
> from $150 p/h it said his normal fee was $450 p/h
> but willing to do $150 then you said "His rates go
> up from there." you show me where i need to look
> on this site that it says that
>
> and your attempt to belittle by saying $15,000? i
> was using reasonable # of people.fact is they have
> sent letters to thousands if not tens of thousands
> of companies.
> i believe someone on FSB posted a similar question
> and you got just as upset there..why? if there is
> nothing to gain from yourself or oscar and this is
> truly to help people why get upset.My mother
> always said if it doesnt apply let it fly.
>
I don't have a problem with questions but how they are asked makes a difference. But let us go back to your original post.
> how do you claim to help these people with letter?
> you send form letter for $150 and then claim if getty pursues legally you will represent for $150 p/h
> If getty filed 100 of these at once how would you defend?
> it sounds like you are taking advantage of people .
You asked how we claimed to help people? You trivialize the $150 service without getting all the facts? You say it sounds like we are taking advantage of people?
For the relatively short amount of time I have been involved, I think I have assembled the most comprehensive research on the Internet and the Getty controversy and given it away freely. I don't ask for anything and even the so-called "recognition" I get really is not entirely positive to my career. And yet, I am insane enough to do it anyway.
Even your current reply has a tone of entitlement that you "deserve" an answer. You don't. I do my best to put as much information as possible. I do my best to work with Oscar in a cooperative manner of which he has been incredibly generous.
And yes, I get very impatient and irate when people want to assume the worst of us. If you wanted to ask a question, you could have asked without all the negative insinuations of how we can help people and how it seems like we are taking advantage of people.
Regarding FSB, same reason. I tried to be open, helpful, and contributing. Then some people started making cynical and conspiratorial comments about me and Oscar. Then I try to unwind and clarify the thing, then other people are whining about wasting bandwidth.
So now, I have gone silent unless there is something serious to say. I am thinking to myself that I am idiot for even keeping this site or discussion forum up at all and let Getty go after the legally ignorant or the spineless.
I took a stand and used my brain and spine. I don't care if people want the freebies or hire Oscar. What I definitely won't put up with is the conspiracy and cynical talk. I also do not have to continue to explain and justify myself for trying to do some good. That is simply ridiculous that I have to defend my efforts to provide resources to help others.
Matthew
djsek Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> do you think your sarcasm helps?
> i asked legitamate questions..its called covering
> all bases
> for all your claims that the information is on
> site to be read no were does it say his costs rise
> from $150 p/h it said his normal fee was $450 p/h
> but willing to do $150 then you said "His rates go
> up from there." you show me where i need to look
> on this site that it says that
>
> and your attempt to belittle by saying $15,000? i
> was using reasonable # of people.fact is they have
> sent letters to thousands if not tens of thousands
> of companies.
> i believe someone on FSB posted a similar question
> and you got just as upset there..why? if there is
> nothing to gain from yourself or oscar and this is
> truly to help people why get upset.My mother
> always said if it doesnt apply let it fly.
>