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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: To ELI Readers, I am Enemy Number One!
« on: August 25, 2014, 09:00:43 PM »
Some of the copyright thug lawyers are simply their worst enemy.  Witness Mike Meier who came out of nowhere whom we almost never dealt with. 

http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/forum/getty-images-letter-forum/copyright-law-group-settlement-demand-letter-%28attorney-mike-meier%29/msg18608/#msg18608

It is nice to have a community of volunteer cooperative websites looking out for each other in case something happens to me or ELI. 

The First Amendment is our friend and our best source of power and I am going to prove it later this year.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / The Summer heat is getting to me.
« on: August 25, 2014, 08:36:17 PM »
This summer heat is wearing me down and I am getting cranky.

If one more idiot or copyright thug sends me or Oscar a complaint about ELI....


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The summer heat is making lawyers of copyright thuggery delusional this summer season. Attorney Mikey Meier has allegedly sent this strange email to my domain registrar of the extortionletterinfo.com.



http://www.scribd.com/doc/237721969/Mike-Meier-DMCA-Letter-to-ELI-Domain-Registrar
 
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   ----- Original Message -----
    From: Mike Meier <[email protected]>
    To: [email protected]
    Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:47:07 -0800 (GMT)
    subject: DMCA Notice

    22 August 2014
   
    ATTN. DMCA Department 
    Attn. [email protected]

    RE: Copyright Infringement, along with Defamatory and Libelous

http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/forum/getty-images-letter-forum/copyright-law-group-settlement-demand-letter-%28attorney-mike-meier%29/


Dear Sir or Madam:   

    You are hosting a website with information that infringes on my copyrights and defames me. I am requesting that you take that information down immediately.   

The copyright-infringing and defamatory information includes:

    http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/forum/getty-images-letter-forum/copyright-law-group-settlement-demand-letter-%28attorney-mike-meier%29/

It uses my website pictures and inserts defamatory and libelous statements:   

    “First, this is a visually-pleasing and well-formatted extortion letter.”

Fairfax Attorney Mike Meier from the firm of Lee & Meier PLLC, also doesn't always play by the rules..

    "Finally, the assertion by Plaintiff’s counsel, Mr. Meier, that he “does not employ abusive practices” (Opposing Memo, p. 2) reflects, at best, a case of amnesia.”

    “He Has been given the dubious award of "Troll of the week" over on fightcopyrighttrolls.com

    Copyright troll subspecies: Weretroll (Mike Meier) - Troll of the week

    “Weretroll” is a portmanteau of “troll” and “werewolf”, a name for a miserable kind of formerly decent attorneys who turn into trolls when the moon is full, confusing the full moon with a golden coin. Unlike a werewolf, a weretroll can bark, but cannot bite — just like any other representative of the troll genera. Like its relatives, it lives of those whom it manages to coerce into settling using deception and hollow threats.”

    ****

    This letter is official notification under Section 512(c) of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA"), and I seek the removal of the aforementioned infringing material from your servers. I request that you immediately notify the infringer of this notice and inform them of their duty to remove the infringing material immediately, and notify them to cease any further posting of infringing material to your server in the future.

    Please also be advised that law requires you, as a service provider, to remove or disable access to the infringing materials upon receiving this notice. Under U.S. law, a service provider, such as yourself, enjoys immunity from a copyright lawsuit provided that you act with deliberate speed to investigate and rectify ongoing copyright infringement. If service providers do not investigate and remove or disable the infringing material this immunity is lost. Therefore, in order for you to remain immune from a copyright infringement action you will need to investigate and ultimately remove or otherwise disable the infringing material from your servers with all due speed should the direct infringer, your client, not comply immediately.

    I am providing this notice in good faith and with the reasonable belief that intellectual property rights are being infringed.

    Under penalty of perjury I certify that the information contained in the notification is both true and accurate, and I have the authority to act on behalf of the owner of the copyrights involved.

    Should you wish to discuss this with me please contact me directly.   

    --
    Regards/Mit freundlichen Grüssen,
    Mike Meier
    International Law Group, LLC
    6525, 76th Street
    Cabin John, MD 20818 - USA
    Phone: (202) 580-8759
    Cell: (202) 460-9171
    Fax: (202) 747-5795
    Email: [email protected]

=============

Domain registrars don't deal with DMCA takedown notices.  Usually, it is the website owner (me/my corporation) or the web host.  That is it.  It's a bit nonsensical and idiotic given the fact that my email is not difficult to hard to find. He could have sent it directly to me.  In fact, I publish how people can make complaints to me.

http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/gripes-and-complaints-about-eli/

IN this case, it would not have made a bit of difference because Mikey appears to be delirious and drunk with stupor.

However, I am not going to call him stupid. Because if I did, it would Mikey Meier stupider than Timmy McCormack and his letters. Mikey Meier has never gotten much traffic here on ELI. He is actually more infamous in the porn troll circles covered by our friends at DieTrollDie.com and FightCopyrightTrolls.com. 

In fact, I even emailed them about this email and they got a nice little chuckle out of it. It gave me the opportunity to connect them with the ELI Team. We all had a nice email dialog laughing at this ridiculous email sent to my domain registrar.  He must think this is my first spacewalk. Not so.

For the benefit of our audience, let's take a look at the so-called allegations.

1.  Is there defamation and libel here?  I don't think there any statements that qualifies for either.  Lots of opinions, name-calling, mockery, quoting of other sources, and pure research by Robert K.  So much material was discovered from other websites covering Mikey.

2.  What photos are he referring to?  There are no photos whatsoever on this thread. All text, quotes, and hyperlinks. That is it. 

3. What copyrights is he referring to? And what is being infringed?  His fucking name? MIKE MEIER?  Does he consider us using his name to be copyright infringement??  I see no image or any content he created here.  Just a lot of commentary by ELI folks and reference to our blog friends on the Troll Porn reporting front. That is it.

IN conclusion, the email "claim" is so ridiculous, my own reply is what you have read here and the tweets I will introduce him to Barbra Streisand (of Streisand Effect fame).

This thread from 2012 was probably the ONLY reference of him out of the 16,000 posts here on the ELI Forums.  He has kindly asked for a 2014 update and we are happy to oblige.

P.S. There are no lawyer profiles on that law firm website.  I guess all the lawyers have flown the coop or too embarrassed to show their ugly mugs.


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Hello Steve,

Thank for sharing these articles. WE look forward to reading them.

Hi Everyone,

I am a colleague of Joel Rothman and recently posted an article on his case as well.  http://artlawjournal.com/getty-images-sued-deceptive-practices/

I also have two other articles on tips for handling a Getty Extortion Letter. 

http://artlawjournal.com/respond-getty-images-demand-letter/    http://artlawjournal.com/tips-responding-getty-images-demand-letter/ 

I hope you find them useful.  Keep up the good work.

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Hello Joel,

As founder of ELI, I welcome you to the ELI Forums and pleasantly surprised you have replied to this thread. I was not aware that you had posted and I was notified by another forum user of your participation.

As you can see, the ELI Forums is where the action is at and we have been in existence for 6 years.  I am going to tell you it hasn't always been an easy road being the sole advocates for Getty victims for so many years. Oscar Michelen and I have poured countless hours over the years and our personal time and reputations in assisting others.

Because ELI was founded by me (a non-lawyer) and our community / readership consists almost entirely of non-lawyers, we have taken unconventional approaches to fighting back the tide of thousands of letters that are issued each year that go beyond Getty Images that ask for disproportional amounts of monies. When asked for more proof and copyright registration, the standard bullshit answer (forgive my bluntness) is they will only provide such information if they filed suit and/or during a trial. The truth of the matter is they would be expected to provide such information beforehand.

There have been unexplained issues where they are charging SALES TAX within some of their extortion letters for what I believe is a retroactive license. In other words, they attempt to transform what is allegedly a copyright infringement settlement into a "coerced purchase".  I take it to mean "you either buy this license" today or we will sue you. For non-lawyers, it is taking a legal gun to someone's head.  Either they want to sell a license or they want to settle a complaint. It has a similar feel to a backroom "protection scheme".

Getty Images sloppiness is such that in Getty Images vs. Advernet in New York, the Court appears to show extreme disapproval of Getty actions and operations to the degree that they lost the case even though the defendant had not appeared and counsel was no longer representing them! Normally, you would expect to see a default judgment in such matter. But we were all astounded to see how perceptive that Court was in viewing Getty shenanigans.

You should be aware that high-ranking Getty Images corporate employees have engaged in backroom mischief in an effort to discredit and silence me and thereby crippling ELI and I have actual documents to show this. I also have documents that demonstrate backroom mischief by outside counsel of Getty Images.  If you had waited longer, you would have seen a more expansive and complete cycle of how the Getty collection system works because Seattle Attorney Timothy B. McCormack would have likely sent you a letter and you could have seen the misleading tactics being used by his office.

For example, I have an email by Getty corporate counsel trying to heavy-handedly advise Oscar Michelen (who does not own this website or these forums) to use his influence on me to NOT file State Bar Complaints against an abusive lawyer. Although, every private citizen has the right to do so if they feel they have been wronged.

Before we called them out on it, his operation had at least one paralegal (Ashanti Taylor comes to mind) appearing to engage in legal practice by a documented letter that says SHE would advise Getty Images of a course of action. I believe only Timothy B. McCormack would have such authority or representation ability.

In fact, it has gotten so personal Mr. McCormack has managed to inject himself in another lawsuit about me that entirely has nothing to do with him. But he wants to get at me.

Picscout, purchased a few years ago by Getty Images, reportedly routinely defies and ignores all Internet conventions and protocols and engages in invasive website scanning techniques to invade web servers throughout the U.S. and perhaps beyond. From what is reported to me, Picscout is fully owned, sanctioned, and endorsed by Getty Images. Picscout actively engages in online activities that come dangerously close to indiscriminate wholesale hacking and theft of bandwidth.

These are only small examples of details the ELI Community have been tracking over the years.

And if you think Getty Images is bad, you should see the larger picture of which ELI reports. There is a Hawaiian operation led by photographer Vincent K. Tylor (VKT) that routinely takes advantage of what appears to be "seeded images" of Hawaii scenery photos on the Internet under the guise of "free wallpaper images" and "free screensaver images". It does not appear he actively "seeds" the Internet but he fully, actively, gleefully, and vindictively capitalizes on it in a very big way if you look at his lawsuit and settlement record, in particular, the ones by Hawaiian Attorney James Stephen Street.

VKT used an alleged California law firm called Woolf, Gafni, & Fowler" for a number of cases. Upon investigation, we discovered there is no such law firm legitimately registered in California and there were only remnants of an old Texas registration found.

http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/forum/hawaiian-letters-lawsuits-forum/info-on-woolf-gafni-and-fowler-llp/

When ELI reported on it, the suit was dropped within 48 hours but later refiled. It was even written about a Vermont newspaper.

http://www.reformer.com/localnews/ci_26247454/lawsuit-against-vernon-company-dropped-refiled

http://www.reformer.com/localnews/ci_25969243/vernon-company-faces-lawsuit-from-copyright-troll

We've another Hawaiian operation, Hawaiian Art Network, that used a California lawyer (Brandon Sand) to pursue and frighten a travel agent in Canada!

We've had a realtor (Jennifer Sherrouse) who was charged with housing discrimination by the U.S. Dept of Justice.

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2009/September/09-crt-934.html

Despite her checkered past in the real estate industry, she is engaging in active litigation in Atlanta on a fellow real estate agent refusing to amicably settle over a minor matter.

http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/forum/getty-images-letter-forum/realtor-jennifer-sherrouse-files-suit-with-the-help-of-evan-andesron-and-carolyn/

The issue of copyright extortion goes beyond Getty Images although they have the largest trolling operation. There are countless examples of legal shenanigans pulled over the years by all kinds of parties. It is a HUGE revenue generator for those that engage in it.

There are a great deal of other information I have been compiling and holding but I cannot publicly write about them at this time due to the sensitivity of the information. 

I commend your efforts to get a declaratory judgment to get clarification of how they work. It will set a precedent to all similar operations throughout the U.S. But more importantly, expose the internal operations. I believe upon a discovery process, you will find very "interesting information" into the Getty operation. In fact, you will likely find "interesting information" into most operations if you dig deep enough.

You may have visited the ELI Forums to respond to your lawsuit against Getty Images but I believe you will find a hornet's nest of transgressions that go far beyond Getty Images.

Because I am originally from Florida and have friends in South Florida, there is an opportunity to personally discuss these issues personally and privately. The issue has become so personal especially by Timothy B. McCormack's recent lawsuit shenanigans, that members of ELI such as myself are now having their legitimate First Amendment rights dangerously being threatened. We have numerous letters on file of attempts to censor, restrain, deter, and mute our reporting.

I have considered filing a wholesale list of State Bar Complaints against a number of troll lawyers through the U.S. that have attempted to stymie my abilities to speak out freely on the issue, censor ELI through their written complaints to third parties not involved in the ownership or operation of ELI. They have actively engaged in deceptive, backroom activities that have impeded my blogger rights as defined by the EFF.

https://www.eff.org/bloggers

Further, I would like to have a private discussion of a possible lawsuit against those lawyers who have repeatedly written complaints about me to another party in a coercive attempt to stop or slow our ability to write, report, and comment freely.

I am willing to be a party to a joint lawsuit or any other formal civil remedy and I am willing to travel to other jurisdictions if need be. I am also willing to engage in publicity to raise such funds if necessary.  It is not a tact I would normally engage in or endorse because I distrust the legal system but it might be the only message they understand.

There are 2-3 parties in particular, that have annoyed and interfered with my and ELI Efforts for years in an ongoing, concerted, backroom manner, that I am quite fed up with.

There have been parties and forces that have encouraged me to exercise restraint over the years but I am seriously considering ignoring such advice.  There has been too much secrecy and cloak and dagger techniques. I am a believer in getting all the information in the open (ugliness and all) and let the chips fall where they may.

I am willing to consider written apologies by those parties for those backroom efforts against me. but I expect none as I believe they are despicable, obnoxious human beings that simply "don't get it".  And so, it is so IRONIC that you have landed directly in the ELI Forums with a huge public platform with so many built-in supporters .

Welcome to the ELI Forums!  It unfortunately gets down and dirty here.

Hi everyone.  Joel Rothman here.  Partner in Schneider Rothman Intellectual Property Law Group PLLC.  http://www.sriplaw.com 

We are the plaintiff in the case filed this past week against Getty Images, Inc.  I have visited ELI previously, but did not realize there were forums here.  I do now after speaking yesterday with Oscar Michelen. There seems to be a wealth of valuable information here and I commend everyone who is contributing productively to increase awareness and understanding about copyright and the law.

When we filed suit on Wednesday, 8/20/2014, I posted this on our website http://www.sriplaw.com/sued-getty-images/.  Let me go into a bit more detail about our legal strategy (Getty's attorneys, please pay attention).

The Florida Deceptive and Unfair Trade Practices Act (FDUTPA) broadly declares that “Unfair methods of competition, unconscionable acts or practices, and unfair or deceptive acts or practices in the conduct of any trade or commerce” are unlawful. See s. 501.204, Unlawful acts and practices here:http://goo.gl/fi4PPa

We believe that Getty's past conduct demonstrates that the unfair or deceptive act it committed against our firm, has occurred, is occurring, and is likely to occur in the future and, therefore, Getty must be enjoined from further commission of said act in the future.

It is just that simple.

Comments? Questions?

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Here's my take with SRIPLAW...

I think it is largely a publicity play.  No way they could do that kind of analysis and defense of the hot-linked image, Perfect 10, etc. without them knowing about ELI and all the information here.  They had to know that Getty would likely not sue over such a piddly amount.  But perhaps that they are an IP Law firm makes them extra sensitive.

My thinking is they could have taken their argument directly to Getty and they would have killed the letter.

Lawsuits become a public matter of interest and I think SRIPLAW knows this.  Hence, they got some nice publicity with Techdirt, us, and who knows who else?

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We really are not trying to attack you but you are creating conspiracies in your head or just desperately trying to justify your position.

"Hacking" websites is no easy feat for even the most technical person which I consider myself.  There is no photographer able to hack anything. And if he could hack, he would find more efficient ways of profiting because extorting people for money through imagery is tough work with ELI around.

It isn't Occum's razor. I know what that is.  You are delusional and you are helping make ELI history.  IN the six years of existence, we have never encountered anyone like you who so fervently defend and justify your egregious position.

Your best bet is to just call it a day.  They won't likely collect from you and just be content with that.  The other arguments just ain't going to wash.

You have exposed the photographer, his name is listed here.  Thank you for that.  But you will never hear any of us on ELI to say keep using the image. We will always say "TAKE THE FUCKING IMAGE DOWN NOW! not tomorrow or the next day.  You do it immediately and start cleaning up all websites of images you don't own or license. Period end of story. And they need to take it as a learning experience.

I was recently forced to tell someone on an ELI Support Call I never wanted to hear from him again about any infringements on any of his websites. He had crossed the line as far as I was concerned.  If it ever came up again, he would not be welcome on ELI and would not receive any support from us.

Of course he's seeded the internet.  He's been hacking into pages and planting images to surprise and scare people.  How else does "his" "watermarked" image end up on so many sites???  Occum's razor says he put the images there.  Even if I took down the image, I'd still owe him?  How can that be anything other than extortion?  Look at the crap he spews on his pages about image theft.  This guy is a psychopath and social parasite.  I came here in good faith to expose him and I've been surprised at some of the responses, but I am glad I am starting to get through to people.  And I'm not worried about being sued.  I'm just trying to warn other people of the scam this guy is making a living by doing.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Hell has frozen over on ELI...
« on: August 22, 2014, 02:17:21 AM »
Senior members of ELI are actually taking the side of photographers and arguing for the rights of the photographer and trying to educate this numbskull who is trying to justify NOT taking down a photo that someone has made a claim on? 

And I am forced to acknowledge Carolyn Wright of Photo Attorney, take her side, and say I actually like her photography and find them of value?  I hate being put in this weird distortion reality. WTF.

How does this even happen given how ELI's alleged reputation is that we encourage people to ignore and disrespect copyright?

ELI history is being made here. Witness for yourself. This is no act to make ourselves look good.  This is no PR stunt.  This is actually a numbskull that truly doesn't "get it" to the degree ELI members are advocating for copyright enforcers.  Again, WTF.

If this is representative of the the new wave of people coming through, I am jumping ship to the other side and applying for a job with Photo Attorney!

http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/forum/getty-images-letter-forum/tom-schwabel-copyright-equivalent-of-nigerian-scam/

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You will prevail in the fact that you will likely not have to pay anything by virtue of the lawsuit process is too expensive for most private photographers to pursue.  But that is the extent of it.

Suit yourself.  I reported him to my state attorney general's office and the BBB.  Hopefully others will listen to my message and not fall prey to his sleazy tactics.  I'm certain I will prevail.

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You are making reckless accusations. We rarely accuse anyone of intentionally seeding images with the exception of one person. But even then, there is heavy evidence that corroborates that theory.  If you feel the FBI would do something, I beg you to call them and let us know how it turns out.

And regarding taking down your website to make a living, I think the photographer would argue the same thing. I don't agree with them but I also don't agree with you.

And if you don't starting absorbing what we are telling you, someone somewhere you will get slapped hard and no one from ELI will help you. Your opinions and thought process are so out there, you force us to side with the people we mostly despise.

I never thought I would ever see the day I would be arguing with any reader on behalf of the other side!

This has to be an ELI First!


Umm, accusing someone of stealing something when it isn't stolen and then telling them to pay or else is extortion.  Lawyer or no lawyer.  Especially if he seeds images onto the internet in a fishing expedition.  I bet he also hacks into websites to plant images too. That's something the FBI would be very interested in.

And since when is $200 fair for a stupid picture on the internet?  He should go learn how to take his own pretty pictures and stop trying to harass, defame, and extort honest folks trying to make an honest living in a tight economy.  He's messing with my business and my food on the table because he is too lazy to do something and make the world a better place.  There's wars going on and all kinds of other stuff that is much more important than this petty crap.

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The central issue is that you clearly admit you don't own the image but you are fighting to use it without permission or compensation. That is what we are trying to tell you.

Also, we tell people the legal system can be tough for the extortionists, likewise, it will be tough for you. Few lawyers will be sympathetic to you but don't take our word for it.

I'm surprised nobody here sees the hypocrisy of this guy.  Whatever.  I'll take my message elsewhere.  By the time I'm done with him, he'll have to pay people to use the crappy images he stole.  Holding websites ransom.  Maybe I should go into that business.  Sounds like everyone here would agree with me.

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The guy made a copyright claim to the web host. You were given the opportunity to take the image down.  That is what we tell EVERYONE to do...  Take the image down, it isn't worth it. You may say the image isn't that valuable but you appeared to have kept the image up forcing the escalation.

The guy shut down my website.  Like hell I'm going to pay.  He owes me!

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